I guess I should use quotes and say "I have a dream" and credit Martin Luther King with having said it... or so someone named Ntsike would have Jim Hirschhorn doing... on ActiveRain, a real estate network...
Jim used the phrase "Can't we all just get along" at the end of a blog entry about retention of real estate agents, agents switching companies,
No Gold Watch, you say.
Ntsike's comment:
"Can't we all just get along?" We can't us others quotes with out giving them credit.
Irrespective of how you fell about him, "Can't we all just get along?" are the immortal words of Rodney King.
Properly quoted:
"Can't we all just get along?"
- Rodney King
11/01/2007 by Ntsike Willis
Jim's response:
Ntsike - Lighten up. I am sure that the Blog police would give me a free pass for a statement that has been used about a thousand times.
11/01/2007 by Jim Hirschhorn, Real Living - Orlando
Ntsike's 2nd comment.
Jim, just “wanna” give the brother some credit. No the blogging police won't handcuff you! Here is the funny thing about it those so now common words were not a part of our everyday vernacular until Rodney spoke those words.
I’ve practiced a lesson I learned over 30 years ago in college, never intentionally use words known to be quoted from another without giving the author credit for them. When you read a much as I do you’ll notice a pattern in others writing. If someone wants to sound important or authoritative they quote the author, when they want their writing to have a jazzy flavor they forget the quotes.
You get your FREE pass and it is always light in my corner.
Enjoy your day, enjoy your life. Much love to “ya”!
Same as in your conversation, brokers give you no love when leave their firm to join another!
11/02/2007 by Ntsike Willis
Jim's response...
Whew... Glad to hear it. Blogging can be so stressful! :)
11/02/2007 by Jim Hirschhorn, Real Living - Orlando
hmmmmm I bit my tongue to not respond online to both of Ntsike's comments but I saw the first one and was angered by it. I don't think blog conversations require the op cit and ibid type attribution that formal writing does. I don't see his personal opinion about attribution germaine to the discussion Jim is trying to bring up, retention, recruiting...
If Jay Leno (just an example) used the line "Can't we all just get along?" in his monologue. I would not expect him to add "in the immortal words of Rodney King. " or similar....
I don't believe in talking to people if I say "Can't we all just get along?" I have to do air quotes and attribute the phrase to Rodney King. I feel blogging is very casual written conversation. I don't think Jim was showing any disrespect to Rodney King by not attributing the quote to him. Is it a quote? I looked it up online and I think the transcript shows he used a slightly different phrase, but we remember it as....
I read about everything Jim H. writes on ActiveRain. we are affiliated with the same brokerage, different markets... so I saw his comment and thought, how inappropriate it was.
Later... Ntsike commented on the post I had on
ActiveRain about forming this social network, 'The Maureen Corp' when I got the email that Ntsike had commented I was somewhat scared to read Ntsike's comment.
How do you find the time? Activerain is intense enough!
11/06/2007 by Ntsike Willis
Nothing real bad, just Ntsike worried about my use of time... Social Network envy? I don't find ActiveRain that stressful except when I read things like Ntsike's comments on Jim's post about retention, recruiting... chastising Jim for something Ntsike has every right to practice personally IMHO but no right to expect the rest of us to honor in our conversations...
I did not comment on Jim's post... and his use of THAT phrase and his improper attribution according to Ntsike.... I find Ntsike's kind of comment stressful.... It was all I could do not to comment about that the first I had noticed Ntsike in a sea of 55,000 +/ _ members on ActiveRain.
Side tracked... My dream....
Name envy? I wanted to change my name all the time when I was a kid. When there were name license plates for bikes, there was never a Maureen. Personalized pencils... no Maureen. Little girl necklaces for Cathy, Kathy and Sue and Susie but no Maureen. Maybe that's why I fell in love with Maureen Gorman's Cafe Press items.
Some one named Art wanted to join 'The Maureen Corps' ...
On ActiveRain we talked about name changes.. Art using a fake name, Art dressing up in drag to gain entry to 'The Maureen Corp' ... on my ActiveRain blog introducing the 'The Maureen Corp.' Gee maybe this social network could be popular if it was open to every Tom, Dick and Harry... but then my whole concept of a MySpace type place ... but just for people named Maureen would be shot.
Art got over it. Art started his OWN social network on Ning.com.
Artful
gosh I've pretty much forgotten what my dream is... it has to do with names... to be continued... watch for I have a dream II... do you think if I use that I need to worry about attributing the phrase? I grew up idolizing Martin Luther King...
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